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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:23 pm

    The graphics and animations and environments are phenomenal though, not sure how much of the good they've done with gtav I'd want to exchange for just fun. I'd like it to be somewhere in between though, and i'd really like a best of both worlds like people were expecting to see.

    Well gtav is certainly a lot more fun than grey theft auto iv.
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    Post by Jet Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:18 am

    Shit id exchange the time they spent on the story for that since it wasnt even memorable anyway
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    Post by Jec Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:03 am

    I'd wish they didn't waste resources on Multiplayer and just used all those funds refining the single player even more.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:22 pm

    Would rather have good multplayer, have too many single player games as it is. In that way it was actually good for me that gtav was short, could move on to other games.
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    Post by Jet Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:32 pm

    I wouldnt have bought gtav for 60 dllars if it didnt have MP
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    Post by Cyan Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:14 pm

    yeah sp was great and all but i wanted a better mp to play with friends
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    Post by Jec Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:08 pm

    Aren't there enough MP games out there? This is what I hate about MP surge... Games that start out as a single player franchise should not waste time on multiplayer... Look what happened to Dead Space or Mass Effect... They were great single player experiences and no one thought... Hey! Let's add multiplayer to that! The reason why you guys remember GTA SA so fondly it's because it was primarily a single player game... They focused on that, adding mp to traditionally sp games ruins them by splitting the creative talent in two... We end up with half assed mp or sp or at least one of them ends up being half assed.
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    Post by Jet Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:25 pm

    I remember GTA SA because it was a fun game.

    I agree that dead space and mass effect ultimately suffered by adding multiplayer, the transition was also badly executed. But I also disagree with the extreme view on the other end of the spectrum that games cant evolve into something more. Rockstar said building gta online is something they have been wanting to do for years, the internet bandwagon of "any mp added is evil" is just as wrong
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    Post by Jec Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:29 pm

    Well it hasn't been proven otherwise at least for me. Also add Assassin's Creed to the list.

    If a traditional SP franchise wants to integrate MP, they should do a spinoff or something, build the game from the ground up with MP in mind. As focus... The reason why Tom Clancy's The Division, Destiny and Titanfall for example look so damn fun it's because they are thought from the ground up as MP games. Bethesda has this mentality... instead of adding MP to TES VI they decided to make a separate entry built having MP in mind (TES: O).
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    Post by Jet Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:49 pm

    Yeah they can focus on that 60 dollar initial buy, online paywall for consoles, 15 dollar monthly subscription and the cost for the system to play it on. Thats some focus

    MP doesnt have to be traditional deathmatch or as expansive as gta online is, it can be something simple. I havent tried hitmans online but from what I understand its a beat your friends score type of thing, and create levels for others to beat type of deal. It sounds cool, and I havent heard criticisms about absolution by many people except perhaps nostalgics. Maybe dipping a toe in the pool is a better route for some devs instead of drowning in it like visceral games did with dead space.

    There are also people who straight up dont like mp at all and will not buy a game thats solely multiplayer. That would discourage developers from doing stand alone releases in itself
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    Post by Jec Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:55 pm

    Jet wrote:Yeah they can focus on that 60 dollar initial buy, online paywall for consoles, 15 dollar monthly subscription and the cost for the system to play it on. Thats some focus
    That has nothing to do with focus... just their retarded business model. The game was clearly envisioned for PC gamers only, they were probably bribed by both Sony and Microsoft to bring them to consoles since TES has become a system seller following Skyrim's success.
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    Post by Jet Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:00 pm

    Jec wrote:
    Jet wrote:Yeah they can focus on that 60 dollar initial buy, online paywall for consoles, 15 dollar monthly subscription and the cost for the system to play it on. Thats some focus
    That has nothing to do with focus...
    That was a joke.
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    Post by Cyan Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:47 pm

    kek has finished the tutorial so when we all gona play
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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:19 am

    A lot of games have had great multiplayer while still having quality single player.  Uncharted 2, MGS3, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Portal 2 added multiplayer without detracting from the single player. Also adding multiplayer wasn't what ruined ME3, you know this.

    The developers and the publishers determine the quality of their games. If a developer spreads themselves too thin with multiplayer then it's the developer's fault, or the publisher's fault for forcing the devs to tack it on. Multiplayer itself isn't some evil addition to videogames that robs them of their soul, the only things that can do that are greed and incompetence.

    Expecting good multiplayer and single player from a game is not unreasonable, especially from such a prominent billion dollar title of high acclaim.
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    Post by Jec Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:43 am

    Uncharted's multiplayer being good is very debatable. While Mass Effect 3's problem was it's ending, the final battle on earth was so simple it screamed lack of of development time. Probably if they hadn't wasted time on MP earth could have been more enjoyable.

    While I agree on the developer and publisher responsibility I still don't trust them to make the right choices, so for the time being I prefer them not to include mp in sp games.
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    Post by Jet Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:13 pm

    Or a separate studio can handle multiplayer. Whatever the case if a studio has proven they can handle mp ill be there to play it. It cant prove it without attempting.

    gtao content creator is out. Someone make a level
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:40 pm

    just no prison maps, can't be using that.
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    Post by Cyan Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:52 pm

    no cops n robbers?

    how does the level maker work
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    Post by Jet Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:56 pm

    Make a level lone
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    Post by Jet Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:58 pm

    Cyan wrote:no cops n robbers?

    how does the level maker work
    im guessing you make a level, then you publish it.

    Rockstar said new modes like ctf out this month. Given how heists was pushed back to 2014 im guessing this month means dec 31st 11 59pm pst
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    Post by Cyan Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:09 am

    lone make cops n robbers. it was fun in halo and minecraft
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:32 am

    What's cops and robbers?
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    Post by Jet Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 am

    Im guessing you make a level and publish it
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    Post by Eri Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:11 am

    theres gonna be so much levels....littlebig grandtheftauto

    damnnn its gonna be like an endless waltz....

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    Post by Jet Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:15 am

    Calm down.

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