Naruto Faction Chat Thread #19 [NF: The Last]

Goldie wrote:

KEKOLD wrote:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QGP8NDY?psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/E-BLUE-EHS013RE-Professional-Headset-English/dp/B00HDDFTDU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_vg_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=1NP1XT5XYHSB419GZ60B

http://www.amazon.com/E-Blue-Series-Professional-Gaming-Headset-Linux/dp/B00H43HP7W/ref=pd_cp_pc_1

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or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001ARCFA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A17Y7218I8U3RT
with
http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_img_y

Sup Kek, a few questions before i make a suggestion.

What's your overall budget for your gaming headset/headphone rig? What's your realistic budget and your "I can't go higher than this" budget?

Are you looking for a headphone only for gaming or are you looking for a headphone that will be good for gaming and for other tasks. Like watching anime, music and movies?

What types of games do you have in mind that you'll be playing with them? Are you looking for something that's primarily good at simulating footsteps in a competitive environment or are you looking for something that will immerse you in the world of your games? Perhaps a cross section of both?

I might have a few followup questions depending on how you answer these first three things.


As for the headphones you linked to the AKG K240 is good for gaming... When it's properly amped, it wouldn't be your best choice to jump right in since you'd need some additional gear to get it to where you want it.

Jet wrote:Holy shit my cousin in TJ was shot and killed last week

Jec wrote:When it comes to headphones, there are two ways to see if they are good or not. There's the objective test which sees the sound range of the headset. Good quality ones will pass all these tests without sound distortion. Then there's the subjective way, just like people who couldn't decide on the color of the dress due to neurological and perceptive reasons, I have reasons to believe sound works the same way.

I will say that many have tried my headphones and liked them a lot. They have good bass, good trebble and they cancel noise nicely. I have seen people spend on headphones twice and three times as much as I did for on par or marginally better performance. The cost/benefit ratio is great.

Jet wrote:Why would I joke about that? A family member was visiting and found him dead inside the house. Bullet wounds and his head was hurt according to her. It was in tijuana mexico. I used to go to the neighborhood every saturday until I was 14 since my mom owned property there where we used to live until we moved back tothe US. I knew it was getting worse since the older generation started to disappear but shit dude. I used to walk around there as a kid with my nephew and it didnt really feel unsafe. But the renovations my mom used to install to some apts there kept bei g stolen, faucets, pipes etc. Might have been thieves

Jet wrote:Why would I joke about that? A family member was visiting and found him dead inside the house. Bullet wounds and his head was hurt according to her. It was in tijuana mexico. I used to go to the neighborhood every saturday until I was 14 since my mom owned property there. We used to live around there until I was about 6, we moved back to the US for me to start 1st grade after my grandfather passed away. I knew it was getting worse since the older generation started to disappear but shit dude. I used to walk around there as a kid with my nephew and it didnt really feel unsafe. But the renovations my mom used to install to some apts there kept being stolen, faucets, pipes etc. Might have been thieves.

Goldie wrote:

Jec wrote:When it comes to headphones, there are two ways to see if they are good or not. There's the objective test which sees the sound range of the headset. Good quality ones will pass all these tests without sound distortion. Then there's the subjective way, just like people who couldn't decide on the color of the dress due to neurological and perceptive reasons, I have reasons to believe sound works the same way.

I will say that many have tried my headphones and liked them a lot. They have good bass, good trebble and they cancel noise nicely. I have seen people spend on headphones twice and three times as much as I did for on par or marginally better performance. The cost/benefit ratio is great.

There's more scientific tests that measures headphone performance.

Frequency response tells you the sonic character of the headphones performance, not necessarily the quality of sound reproduction.

You have spectral decay spectrum tests which roughly measures how long a sound will linger after the initial sound has came to a stop, aka resonance. Unfortunately there is still no agreed upon method to measure said resonance but there are a few ways it's measure.  And there still haven't been a speaker, or headphone, that is devoid of sound resonance. If there's too much resonance the intended sound will be "colored" to sound muddled, unintended as it was meant to sound.

Nominal Impedance, sound pressure level and Impedance & phase tests measures how easy or tough is it to get a loud, good sound out of headphone.

Then you have Harmonic distortion tests... Which, well measures distortion! But here's a thread you can read that explains it far better than I ever could. http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/how-articles-provided-our-members/4-how-interpret-distortion-plots.html

These are just a few scientific ways to measure headphone performance.

PS: It's impossible to scientifically measure a headphones "soundstage". Why? Because soundstage is what we humans PERCEIVE where a sound is coming from. Though it's absolutely undeniable that different headphones have different qualities of soundstage.

Jec wrote:

That's... What I said... Only in fewer words.

I still think people need to take into account price/benefit ratio when comparing different headphones and headsets. Marginal improvement is not worth more than a hundred dollars....

Marshall Headphones, now those are truely worth the price tag.

Sai wrote:your pretentiousness knows no bounds

Goldie wrote:
Marshall Headphones, now those are truely worth the price tag.

Goldie wrote:

Jec wrote:

That's... What I said... Only in fewer words.

I still think people need to take into account price/benefit ratio when comparing different headphones and headsets. Marginal improvement is not worth more than a hundred dollars....

Marshall Headphones, now those are truely worth the price tag.

What I was saying is that there's much more tests to than just harmonic distortion levels and frequency response when it comes to headphones. But those graphs don't the entire story of how they reproduce sound. Some things are simply immeasurable.

Jec wrote:

Goldie wrote:

Jec wrote:

That's... What I said... Only in fewer words.

I still think people need to take into account price/benefit ratio when comparing different headphones and headsets. Marginal improvement is not worth more than a hundred dollars....

Marshall Headphones, now those are truely worth the price tag.

What I was saying is that there's much more tests to than just harmonic distortion levels and frequency response when it comes to headphones. But those graphs don't the entire story of how they reproduce sound. Some things are simply immeasurable.

Try here

http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php

Any headphones that pass these tests are well built, and believe me, they don't have to cost more than 200 dollars to pass these tests. But I guess it's up to each if they want to spend so much on marginal differences. The headphone market to me behaves like the RTE cereal market described by Nevo (2001), people are willing to pay high cost margins due to marketing and not significant product differences...

Jet wrote:For sure. Always interested in seeing original content. And Im nowhere close to being an audiophile so I might learn something in the process